The main thing about webdesigning is being able to impress both users and
collegue-developers.

For that, you need graphics knowledge, theorethical and practical
(PhotoShop, some vector program, theary about gif ad jpeg,...), and coding
knowledge for all languages that are quite often used on the platform of
your choice (HTML, Javascript, CSS, ASP/PHP, maybe cgi/perl and of course
Lingo if you're using Flash).

On the part of experience, it depends.  If you've been a truely great
learner, are very interested and are willing to learn and read every single
day, some day throwing it all overboard and start anew with different
language, I wouldn't say you got to have 5 years of experience.  I think if
you're very much into this, a single year is enough to build up a
considerable amount of knowledge.


Kayjey


-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org
[mailto:owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org]Namens David R. Longnecker
Verzonden: woensdag 25 april 2001 5:39
Aan: Kimiko Drew
CC: Hwg-Techniques
Onderwerp: RE: Web designing (was HTML - why bother?)


>> Ok, I would scream in panic with VI, but that's because it reminds me of
>> how badly I couldn't grasp the concepts of C++ in college.

Okay.. now I feel lame that I carry around a DOS version of the VI editor
just for text editing, snapshot HTML editing, and all my other text needs..
LOL.  VI rocks.. C++ is truly scary..

;-)

-David


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org
[mailto:owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org]On Behalf Of Kimiko Drew
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 1:47 PM
To: Davies, Elizabeth H.
Cc: hwg-techniques(at)mail.hwg.org
Subject: Web designing (was HTML - why bother?)



>A basic requirement for the new hires: the ability to hand code and a
>thorough knowledge of cross-browser idiosyncracies. What they don't want: a
>web design graduate who has only coded on FP and DW, can Flash and but not
a
>single page on their resume was done by handcoding skills and they scream
in
>panic when UNIX or VI is mentioned (because no matter how hard you try to
>avoid it... you still end up having to know the bloody VI editor here). A
>person can learn DW or any other application. What takes the time to learn
>is the art.
>
>Elizabeth Davies
>West Interactive
>Systems Development
>Web Designer


Ok, I would scream in panic with VI, but that's because it reminds me of
how badly I couldn't grasp the concepts of C++ in college. My knowledge of
Unix is limited to that same event. I realized then that a programmer in
full I do not have the mind for, although I did enjoy programming for a
time. I guess I am more artistically minded.

While I am interested in becoming a web designer, I won't ask for more info
on the job you mention, at least not at this time. It looks like you are
located farther east than I am currently willing to relocate.

What I am curious about, if you or anyone else wouldn't mind indulging me,
is if in your opinion, a graphic arts degree is more important for a web
designer, or would experience count as well? And what about certifications?

You see, I received my degree in business, but I dislike it with a passion
based on years of boring accounting. I found my passion in web design, but
am still trying to puzzle what all I need to be a web designer. I know html
very well, Photoshop pretty well, learned Illustrator, and appreciate DW
since I first got my mind around the layout. I am learning PHP to
understand form scripting, and trying to puzzle out JavaScript as well
(understand basics, but haven't really worked on it).

I guess in some ways, even with a few years of creating websites, and
improving all the while my understanding of site design, the ins and outs
of what works with what browsers, how to code for the disabled, etc. it
just seems that there is more and more I need to learn. From Flash, to
dhtml, to SSI and CGI/Perl. Sometimes I wonder if I will ever learn enough
to break into this business. And here I thought Accounting was the tough
degree.

Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated, as I would like to
change careers soon, if appropriate. Also any thoughts on what
certifications are often acquired would be great.

TIA


Kimiko Drew
macruimmon(at)earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~macruimmon/

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