RE: Flash... aaahhhhh

by Klaas De Waele <klaas(at)gracegraphics.be>

 Date:  Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:00:30 +0200
 To:  "'hwg tech'" <hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org>
  todo: View Thread, Original
I've used the flash movie forwarding trick before and found it better =
than a
detection script.  Normally, people see the html intro.  Except when =
they
flash, because there is a flash movie in there (tiny) that just does a
forwarding to another page (flash page).

Haven't come across any real backdraws, except for the fact a meta =
refresh
can be done immediately, while with the flash movie, you'll ALWAYS have =
to
wait for it to load.  Depending on the way the loading happens, it can =
be
very bad (eg on a graphically rich page where the flash movie only =
loads
after some or all graphics).  Though having the flash movie at the top =
of
the page eliminates the problem partially.


- Kayjey -



> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org
> [mailto:owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org]Namens Paul Wilson
> Verzonden: dinsdag 18 september 2001 19:51
> Aan: Mikael Bystr=F6m; hwg tech
> Onderwerp: Re: Flash... aaahhhhh
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> >I fail to understand, at the moment at least, why people bother to
> > "detect" (as in javascript) flash when all you need is a=20
> small, small
> > flash movie that directs itself to what you want to show IF=20
> they have
> > Flash and if they don't you also have a HTML header=20
> redirect (with longer
> > times setting) to the HTML only page. No scripts, works with most
> > browsers and is easier to implement.
> > If there a rationale for detect scripts, I would like to=20
> hear about it.
> > What am I missing?
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> Are you talking about meta refresh?  JavaScript can make a=20
> decision that
> doesn't require the viewer to do anything.  A meta refresh=20
> cannot make a
> decision, it just changes pages based upon a time setting.  I=20
> am not sure
> how that will help.
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> Using the meta refresh to redirect has another penalty. =20
> Several search
> engines automatically ban websites that use meta refresh.  In=20
> their opinion
> the webmaster is trying to pull some kind of slick trick or=20
> the webpage is
> possibly a "gateway" page and they don't endorse that concept.
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> For this reason, it is important to not only detect whether=20
> someone has the
> Macromedia driver, but that it is current enough for the webpage.
> JavaScript  is the most popular method of doing this.  It is=20
> also important
> to include a:
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> <.NOSCRIPT><.A HREF=3D"alternate.html">  Click here  <./a> =
</NOSCRIPT>
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> So that people with JavaScript turned off can also select the=20
> alternate
> webpage.
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> Most people have the Flash plugin.  You can build some nice=20
> looking websites
> with it with some nice features.  Not all Flash websites are=20
> 15 minute long
> movies with wierd effects that have nothing to do with the=20
> website's primary
> focus.
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> Paul Wilson
> webguroo(at)tampabay.rr.com
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