Hey Klaas, I see your script doesn't work in all browsers, probably from
all the fancy options you have I'd assume.

> I explicitly deny access to browsers that are not fully supportive of all
the features.  In our eyes, this is not a drawback though.  In fact, some of
our customers had to switch browsers (ie NS 4 to NS 7) and they had a whole
new world open up for them.  They really were impressed by the tool and the
browser too.

Do you think you could help me design the page I'm thinking about?

> If I have spare time left (very rare these days) don't hesitate to ask for
attention either through the mailing list or directly.

I don't know anything about sessions, Or whether I should make it .htaccess

> htaccess, while easy, nice and pretty secure, will make it more difficult
to define access rights for your publishers.

but I think I could gain some information from my bb on making Input tag
buttons, I don't know exactly how they did them, maybe Javascript, which may
be unfortunate.

> Probably.  But why not stop worrying about what people might or might not
have?  I mean, now you're getting in the field of content management you'll
probably come up against some things that need some advaced scripting,
either client or serverside.  You'll get what I mean as soon as you come
across a host that won't support directory listings, file upload, file
save,...  Put together a requirements document.  And choose a good host.  I
chose hostproof because they support so many php features without hiding
behind server components and stuff.

But For now making the simple login script would help a lot

> Go ahead - try it.  Don't know if you'll be going database or not.  I
personally chose for a generic system.  Which means when I have to add a
feature to my sites (or these of our customers) I spend 5-10 minutes to
insert the new database tables, then I can concentrate on designing and
coding the new feature into the actual website.  As said, I don't like it
when customers can decide on fonts, colours,... I mean I don't parse html
entities, so if they really want they can, but I know what the sites will
look like after a month or two when they have the power to make stuff yellow
or big or tiny.  It's already hard enough to keep everything
standards-compliant, so I want them to just type in their text - I'll do the
rest.

> As far as WYSIWYG is concerned - you'll need IE.  Or maybe the latest
netscape/mozilla.  Didn't really follow the developments there.  It's
possible to replicate some word features in IE and produce A WYSIWYG editor.
It's even possible to insert pictures, upload them automatically,...
However, as far as I remember from the single project I did with that, it's
got problems with tables and divs and such.  So really I don't go there
anymore.  The site was a complete mess after the customer put his hands on
it.  You'd also get the question from the customer "why do I pay you if I do
all the work myself".  But don't worry - I've gone through all those
thoughts myself.  And as said, we now stick to simple text input fields,
radio buttons,... and customers even find it a large 'pro' that they don't
have to get involved with design and layout.  I say keep them away from
that!


- Kayjey -
www.fiatcoupe.net


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org [mailto:owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Higgs
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:42 PM
To: Klaas De Waele; hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org
Subject: RE: Content Management Systems (was: Website Comments (PHP))

At 02:41 PM 26/02/2003 +0100, Klaas De Waele wrote:
>It's a nice system, the only objection I have to these and almost all
the
>others is that they give the user too much power.

But that's just it - you don't have to!

>   I don't want people to be
>able to mess around too much with font sizes, colours,...

My configuration of eWebEditPro strips out:

* all FONT tags
* all style attributes
* all class attributes
* and a few other things I can't recall at present

The only options they have for markup are P and H1-6.  All font colours,

styles, etc are defined on an element-basis and listed in my stylesheet.


Chris Higgs
Manager, New Learning Technology
ILFR, University of Melbourne
http://www.landfood.unimelb.edu.au/
Phone: +61 3 8344 9749  Fax: + 61 3 9348 2156 

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