Hello everyone!

First of all - Susan, I am sorry to see this happen to anyone ... especially
on such a nice site.

Secondly - Good suggestion, John, about putting the authorship and copyright
notices in a comment tag at the top of each page. I would take that a step
further. OBVIOUSLY, since the thief didn't even bother to change the names
of the graphics, s/he did not pore over the code that well. I would insert
the comment line at various, random spots throughout every page. I bet had
Susan done that on this site, you would be able to see her name in the
stolen source.

Hindsight is 20/20, though, and we should all learn from this ...

Lastly, the top line of the source code on the home page of the stolen site
is:

     <!-- saved from url=(0022)http://internet.e-mail -->

I have never seen this EXCEPT when someone saves a page off of the internet
- and never in a form like this. Does anyone know what the URL in the line
means or how to read it? Is it anything Susan can use on her behalf?


Chris M. Kasper
Associate Web Engineer
The SoftAd Group, Inc.

"I love California; I practically grew up in Phoenix." -- Vice President Dan
Quayle 


> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 07:45:19 -0400
> From: "John Foliot - Another 4:00 AM Web Thing" <foliot(at)fouram.com>
> Subject: RE: Copying web sites
> 
> Susan,
> 
> This sucks.  Hopefully all will be resolved without having to get a
lawyer,
> but it suggests to all that taking copyright issues seriously is an issue
we
> all should be aware of (sorry it's your pain used to illustrate the
point).
> 
> As a matter of course, I include a <!-- comment --> at the top of each
page
> developed which declares authorship and copyright notice. (see:
> www.littlerascalranch.com - view source) As well, copyright is always
> visibly included on each page.  While it will never stop blatant theives,
it
> says "I'm watching, this is mine, if you use it you are breaking the law".
> The old adage of "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" comes
to
> mind.
> 
> Susan, I'm sure I speak for most members of this list when I wish you
well,
> and hope that things do get resolved.  Lean on this list, and let us know
> the outcome.
> 
> Good Luck
> 
> John Foliot
> Another 4:00 AM Web Thing / Bytown Internet
> 
> 
>> - -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-hwg-business(at)hwg.org [mailto:owner-hwg-business(at)hwg.org]On
>> Behalf Of Susan Walsh
>> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:34 PM
>> To: hwg-business(at)hwg.org
>> Subject: Copying web sites
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I have a client that I designed a web site for earlier in the year.
Today,
>> I found out that one of their competitors copied the site.  Literally,
they
>> are using my graphics, HTML, stylesheets, ticker etc.  When I view
source,
>> they didn't even bother to change the name of the files.
>> 
>> My client did not put a copyright on their web pages, but in this
>> circumstance, I don't think it matters.  I think this is best illustrated
by
>> looking at the two sites.
>> 
>> The site I designed: http://www.bestratefunding.com
>> 
>> The site that copied: http://www.loanleaders.com
>> 
>> These people have blatently stolen my graphics, forms, etc.  What can I
do?
>> I am really upset about this.  Thank you in advance!
>> 
>> Susan Walsh

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