maybe i can sum up so we can end this thread?

point 1:  there are people who make a living from their artwork,
photography, other images.  these people will never stop looking for a way
to stop people from stealing their material.
point 2:  some of these people put their stuff on the web and leave it open
to theft, though they do collect tricks for making this difficult, etc.
this is a worthwhile effort for them.
point 3:  there are others who make it their hobby to figure out how to get
past these things (mostly just to see if they can).
point 4:  these people will never stop trying to get past security measures
taken by the type of people described in point 1.  whether this is
worthwhile or not, i can't say, but at least they're not sending mail bombs.
point 5:  someone brought to our attention a site that has been pretty
tricky about how they handle the graphic-theft problem.  it's a neat idea,
although some of us (myself included) didn't want to download their plug-in,
a choice that we as users have.  

the way i see it, there isn't an argument, just a lot of whining going on.
if anybody has anything new to add, that's great, but the "yes you can", "no
you can't" argument is getting a bit old.

i apologize for the rant, but i'm grumpy today, and this thread is getting
really old.

-rebecca
http://www.nerdygirl.com

-----Original Message-----
From: tim booker [mailto:timbooker(at)btinternet.com]
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 3:11 PM
To: pbabcock(at)bgsgroup.com; pbenoit(at)triton-network.com;
hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org
Subject: RE: Fwd: Launch Newsletter -- April 13, 2000


Personally, I don't see what all the fuss is about.

I went to the site, declined the download of the plug-in, and all of the
images were there for the taking.  CleverContent?  Rather an odd choice of
name.....

Get over it guys.  If you put an image (or any kind of code or content) on a
Web page, it is available to anyone who wants it.  This is the nature of the
Web.

You can use any number of methods to annoy the visitor into leaving the
site, but as long as they can view your image, it will be possible to steal
it.

If you don't want your images (content, or intellectual property) stolen,
don't put them on the Web.

Tim




> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org
> [mailto:owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org]On Behalf Of Phil Babcock
> Sent: 14 April 2000 16:32
> To: pbenoit(at)triton-network.com; hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org
> Subject: RE: Fwd: Launch Newsletter -- April 13, 2000
>
>
> >Someone mentioned http://www.clevercontent.com/ before.  Go
> ahead... try
> to
> >screen capture, right mouse click, drag & copy their
> protected images.
>
> Interesting, but you need to convice people to download the
> plugin. How
> likely is that?
>
>
> Phil Babcock
> Lead Web Designer
> BGS Group Inc.
>
>

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