Re: Style Sheets (was RE: Table Width/Heights)

by tamara <tamara(at)abbeyink.com>

 Date:  Tue, 19 Feb 2002 18:03:53 -0600
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At 10:11 PM 2/19/2002 +0000, Andrew McFarland wrote:
>At 23:30 14/02/02 -0500, Nathan wrote:
>> >o Validate your CSS and try to get rid of all warnings as well -
>> >see http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ A valid, warning free stylesheet
>> >will, at the very least, degrade gracefully most of the time.
>>
>>This is the main part of my concern, though. If I'm using stylesheets to
>>control the position of graphics (instead of say, a table) there doesn't
>>seem to *be* a degrade curve. It either works or it's blasted to pieces if
>>even visible. <shrug> Am I way off base worrying about this?
>
>Unless you are using float in your CSS, its probably not worth worrying 
>about too much. Float in CSS tends to get screwed up in Netscape 4. 
>Positioning of things with CSS is fairly reliable, even in NS4. Most 
>reasonable layouts can be achieved with CSS in a cross browser way.
>
>Your concern should be with browsers that don't support CSS. The chances 
>are they will have a radically different layout, but as long as all the 
>information is just as accessible (and it probably will be) that is 
>graceful degrading. If a user isn't using CSS there is usually a really 
>good reason for them not using it. Sending a layout-free page is probably 
>the best thing then. You could use HTML 3.2 for everything, which would 
>probably look better in NS3, but would work really badly (for example) on 
>the AvantGo browser on PDAs.

I agree with Andrew -- go somewhere like http://www.w3schools.com/, 
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/Style.html, and some of the other great CSS 
tutorials and use what will work within reason for your site and its audience.

If you go with some really fancy CSS, then you'll get something like 
http://alistapart.com/index.html or http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/ 
both of which simply dismiss NN. The layout on those sites as compared to 
http://www.projectseven.com/whims/cssp_3box/3boxnoscript.htm is primarily 
one of audience. If you expect NN users, then write so that you include 
them. If you have a limited audience and can expect a controlled browser 
usage such as those on some intranets, then write to that one.

My oh-too
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