RE: designing for IE and NS

FYI -

I knew I had seen this somewhere but forgot who the vendor is. But,
receiving an update notice from McAfee rang the bell...

To quote:

"Netscape 4.6+ users can install... to gain capability for our applications;
however, IE 4.0+ must be installed prior to installing the plug-in."

It's a cruel world (sometimes).

Adobe once had a warning similar to the above but they have rearranged their
requirements (THEY SAY).

Bob Masters


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hwg-business(at)hwg.org [mailto:owner-hwg-business(at)hwg.org]On
Behalf Of meovino(at)Estes-Express.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 08:34
To: hwg-business(at)hwg.org
Subject: RE: 216 web safe (was designing for IE and NS )






I agree with John wholeheartedly, and I'd like to add that your user
(potential
customer) running at 256 colors or less and 640x480 resolution often does
not
know that he/she can change resolution/color depth, why they may not be able
to
do so (hardware constraints) and how to upgrade video hardware.  What they
do
know is that your site looks funny on their monitor.

My company serves customers as large as Home Depot and as small as Joe's
Hardware (and don't assume that only the big guys are technologically
advanced -
anyone with a credit card can go to dell.com and buy a nice machine), and
the
hardware and software they use to access our site runs the gamut.

Mike Eovino
E-commerce and Customer Development Manager
Estes Express Lines
http://www.estes-express.com



<<As somebody has already pointed out, this is a system issue.  While I will
*presume* most people on this list have above average systems out there,
many people accessing the web still are using monitors which only support
256 colors, which is where you get funky things going on.  It is especially
true when it comes to graphics.  As an off-site instructor in the Ottawa
region I have encountered all sorts of systems and configurations (heck just
this week I was at one facility where the browser could only display at 640
X 480 at a whopping 16 colors... yep, 16 colors).  Images which do not use
the web safe palette will dither on these monitors, creating "measles"
especially where large areas of the same "unsafe" palette appear (such as a
background image).

As a business decision then ('cause this IS the business list) I would
ensure that my images and colors conform to the web safe palette so that
anybody seeing my client's site (remember him...the guy who actually pays my
bills?) will see the nice pretty web site, whether they have a smokin' 21 "
monitor displaying all 16.5 million or that poor lowly 14" at 256 colors.
They way I see it (and same with my clients) everybody's money is all the
same color (well here in Canada it's all kinds of different colors but you
get the point.....)


John Foliot
Another 4:00 AM Web Thing
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

foliot(at)fouram.com>>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hwg-business(at)hwg.org [mailto:owner-hwg-business(at)hwg.org]On
> Behalf Of Virginia Blalock
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 5:19 PM
> To: hwg-business(at)hwg.org
> Subject: Re: designing for IE and NS
>
>
> At 02:24 PM 5/24/00 -0400, Bernie Mooney wrote:
>
>
> > From everything I've read about NS it says the colors are
> limited and you
> > can see that when you try and design a custom color. that falls out
>
> I may be lacking in knowledge somewhere, but I use NN 4.73 with 24 bit
> color. IIRC I used NN 3.x with 24 bit color. The web safe palette has 216
> instead of 256 colors due to the other 40 colors varying between
> Macs and PCs.
>
> I have used non web safe colors and have been able to see them fine on my
> machine.
>
> Because my stats indicate that most of my visitors have at least 16 bit
> color, I don't worry about web safe colors as much as I used to.
> However, I
> still try and use them when I can.
>
> Virginia's Visions
> http://www.visionsnet.com
>
>
>

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