Re: INFO: HWG-Business Admin FAQ 02/16/01

Vikki,

My personal choice would be #2 (but with the proper spelling of the "Beary
Special" web address). My understanding of sig lines is that they should be
short, consise, and to the point without a lot of heavily obvious
advertising. #1 seems to be more an ad than a sig, #3 also feels a lot like
an ad, but does contain some good info as well, and #4 is just way too long.
I think I recall reading somewhere that a sig line should be no more than
about 6 lines long. My personal view is that it should contain your name,
company name, contact email(s) and website address(es), but not be an
out-and-out advertisement. The content of the email (or post, depending)
should give the reader the information they wish to know, and if they're
interested in more information you have available, then the sig line points
them in the right direction.

Just my 2c.

Kehvan
(who rarely uses sig lines anyway :-) )

----- Original Message -----
From: "Caranois" <vjmartin(at)charter.net>
To: <hwg-business(at)hwg.org>; "Judith C. Kallos" <webmaster(at)theistudio.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 17:36
Subject: Re: INFO: HWG-Business Admin FAQ 02/16/01


| I understand that my mail has been bouncing.. I changed the settings
| so hopefully this will get through.
| Thanks for letting me know.
|
| Messagse:
|
| Ok I have been reading on sig lines.
| I too am always looking to increase traffic to my site.
|
| I am enclosing my sig lines for those who wish to comment..
| No hurt feelings on my part. LoL I need the critiques.
|
| Ok here goes.
|
| 1)  ==============================================
|
| Thank you for allowing us the pleasure to serve you,
|
|  Vikki Martin- vjmartin(at)caranois.com
| Caranois Collectibles - http://www.caranois.com
| Screenie Beanies - Our Number 1 Seller
| http://www.caranois.com/screeniebeaniesaa/screeniebeanie.html
| We are pleased to announce we give Government discounts on our Screenie
| Beanies.
| If you are interested please send inquires to gov-discounts(at)caranois.com
|
| 2)   ===============================================================
|
| Vikki
| Inspired-Graphics ~ Graphic Design &  ICQ Greetings
|  http://www.inspired-graphics.com
| Send a friend an ICQ Greeting -
| http://www.inspired-graphics.com/icq/icqgreetings.html
| Caranois Limited ~  Beary Special Collectibles & Gifts
| http://www.caranois.com
| Beary Special Card Shop ~ Coming Soon!
| http://www.bearyspeical.com
| 3) ======================================================================
|
| Vik
| Caranois Collectibles http://www.caranois.com
| Inspired-Graphics  http://www.inspired-graphics.com
| ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| To receive our HTML Newsletters click on the link below.
| http://www.caranois.com/newsaa/bsnews/subscribe.html
| ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| Referrals and Auctions coming soon by: vjmartin.
| E-bay:
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=vik-
| PayPal: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vjmartin%40charter.net
| Bid Ville: http://www.bidville.com/index.cfm?redirect=1&refer=vjmartin
| =======================================================================
| 4)-----------------------------------------
| Vikki
| Caranois Limited ~  Gifts & Collectibles
| http://www.caranois.com
| Inspired-Graphics ~  Graphic Design & ICQ Greetings
| http://www.inspired-graphics.com
| HTML High Tech Newsletter covering HOT and up to date news regarding plush
| and collectibles.
| If you are interested please sign up using the URL below.
| http://www.caranois.com/newsaa/bsnews/subscribe.html This is an OP-In only
| newsletter.
| Your email addresses are private, we do not sell or reveal you private
email
| address.
|
| Ok I think that is quite enough.. If anyone would like to offer
suggestions.
| I am open to hear them.
|
| Vik
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: Kevin A. Jackson
| To: hwg-business(at)hwg.org
| Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 7:17 PM
| Subject: Re: Attracting visitors
|
|
| At 03:57 PM 2/17/01 -0500, Paul Mennega wrote:
| >Hi there.  I have a site that I have recently finished, and I would like
to
| >attract some attention to this site.  In your personal experiences, what
| are
| >some of the best ways to start attracting users to a site.  I am not
| talking
| >about keeping them there(the content itself should do that), but just
| >getting the initial visit.
| --
|
| Hi Paul,
|
| The first thing that you need to do you have gotten half right -
contribute
| to mailing lists, but don't forget to include your URL either as part of
| the content or in the Signature of your email :). It is considered
| acceptable netiquette to add up to a 6-line self-promotional signature at
| the end of every email you send to the list. Each list has its own
| guidelines, and it is a good idea to look into them first before posting,
| and try to contribute to the value of the list in the process. For the
| guidelines on this list check the Guild website at http://www.hwg.org/
|
| We wrote an article on the topic some time ago, and a quick check shows it
| still seems up-to-date, apart from a reference to the email program
| Pegasus, which has moved, and a quick Google search will find it.
|
| Here is the article:
| http://www.canadaone.com/technology/email_networking1.html
|
| Cheers
|
|
| Kevin A. Jackson, Webmaster
| mailto:kevin(at)canadaone.com
|
| --
| **************************************
|       http://www.canadaone.com/
|              CanadaOne (TM)
|   The premier site for business Canada
| **************************************
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: Judith C. Kallos <webmaster(at)theistudio.com>
| To: <hwg-business(at)hwg.org>
| Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 10:03 AM
| Subject: INFO: HWG-Business Admin FAQ 02/16/01
|
|
| > Hello, Business Members: ;-)
| >
| > Here's your weekly FAQ.  Keep it in a handy place
| > for easy access to HWG information and site links.
| >
| > The list is up and running.  It appears we are just
| > experiencing a lull in activity.  If you have questions in
| > regards to any lists activity levels, please feel free to
| > email the List Guides with your concerns rather than
| > post them to the list.  TIA!
| >
| > Have a great weekend everyone!  ;-)
| >
| > Judith Kallos
| > List Guide/HWG-Business
| > Asst. List Guide Manager
| >
| > ***************************************
| > HWG-Business Administrative FAQ
| > Last Updated:  02/16/01
| > ***************************************
| >
| > ----------
| > CONTENTS
| > ----------
| > 1.  Mailing List Reminders
| > 2.  What are List Guides?
| > 3.  Who are the HWG-Business List Guides?
| > 4.  How do I volunteer to become a List Guide?
| > 5.  Can I subscribe to the list without getting so much E-Mail?
| > 6.  How do I subscribe and unsubscribe?
| > 7.  How do I send a message to the list?
| > 8.  What if my messages are not posting to the list?
| > 9.  What is the HWG-Business mailing list?
| > 10.  What topics do NOT belong on HWG-Business?
| > 11.  What other lists are available?
| >
| >
| > 1.  Mailing List Reminders
| > =====================================================
| >
| > If you suddenly find that you experiencing problems with your posts
| > not making it to the HWG's lists, this is most likely due to the
| > following factors:
| >
| > HTML formatting within your email  or....
| >
| > Your post included an attachment
| >
| > The HWG's servers have filters in place to block posts with the above
| > from the lists for obvious reasons.  If neither of the above apply, you
| > can always contact the List Guides for further assistance.
| >
| >
| > 2.  What are List Guides?
| > =====================================================
| >
| > The List Guide Program was created to assist members on the HWG
| > Mailing Lists to get the most from the lists. We perform the task of
| helping
| > the lists get and keep quality, valuable, valid content. In addition,
List
| > Guides provide assistance to all who request it and help enforce the HWG
| > policies for the mailing lists.  Information on the List Guide program
can
| be
| > found at <http://www.hwg.org/lists/intro.html> .
| >
| > We are here, always in the background, to assist you with your questions
| > and concerns.  We do contact members, via private email, when we are
| > concerned about a post that may have infringed on the Actionable Rules
| > located at: <http://www.hwg.org/lists/rules.html>.   Please understand
we
| > will always err on the side off caution when it comes to these 10 rules
| and
| > appreciate your understanding in this regard.  We do not _generally_
| > enforce Netiquette Guidelines.
| >
| > If you have a problem with what someone else has posted to the list,
then
| > you may freely respond to them in private email.  List Guides will
address
| > any violations of the HWG's Mailing List's Actionable Rules via private
| > email.  Refusal to abide by the Actionable rules can result in a member
| > being removed from the mailing list permanently or for a period of time
| > depending on the nature of the disturbance the member has caused.
| >
| > The List Guide program is authorized and endorsed by the HTML Writers
| > Guild Governing Board. If you have a problem with an action taken by a
| > List Guide you may address that with their manager(s) by sending mail to
| > lg-manager(at)hwg.org .
| >
| >
| > 3.  Who are the HWG-Business List Guides?
| > ======================================================
| >
| > Individuals Currently Volunteering for HWG-Business:
| >
| > HWG-Business List Guides:  <lg-business(at)hwg.org>
| >          Melodie Hardwick
| >          Judith Kallos
| >          Melanie Trivett
| >
| > You can email the Business List Guides at <lg-business(at)hwg.org> with
| > any questions you may have in regards to the HWG-Business List.
| >
| >
| > 4.  How do I volunteer to become a List Guide?
| > ==========================================
| >
| > Want to get involved with the HTML Writers Guild?  We are always
| > seeking helpful organized individuals willing to share their time and
| > experience with the List Guide Program.  We currently have several
| > openings in the List Guide Roster.  If you enjoy helping others and
| > have been an HWG Member for at least three months, and are
| > interested in joining the List Guide Team can email:
<lg-manager(at)hwg.org>
| > for details and an application
| >
| >
| > 5.  How do I subscribe and unsubscribe?
| > =====================================================
| >
| > When sending out a subscribe or unsubscribe message, subject
| > information is NOT needed.  Do NOT include your E-Mail address in
| > the subscribe message.  If you have any problems with subscribing
| > or unsubscribing, please send E-Mail to owner-hwg-business(at)hwg.org
| > or to the List Guides <lg-business(at)hwg.org> .
| >
| > To unsubscribe from the HWG Business List
| > you need to send a message to:
| >
| > hwg-business-request(at)hwg.org
| > In the body of the message type: unsubscribe
| >
| > For information about subscribing to the list, please see:
| > <http://www.hwg.org/lists/hwg-business/index.html#1>
| >
| > For information about UNsubscribing to the list, please see:
| > <http://www.hwg.org/lists/hwg-business/index.html#4>
| >
| >
| > 6.  Can I subscribe to the list without getting so much E-Mail?
| > ======================================================
| >
| > A "digest" version of the list is available. By subscribing to the
digest
| > version of the hwg-business mailing list, you receive a group of posts
| > in one E-Mail message. That way, instead of getting 20 messages a day
| > from the list, you would get 1 or 2 which contain all of the posts from
| that
| > day. You can still participate in the hwg-business list like a regular
| > subscriber, you just receive your messages in a more compact manner.
| >
| > For information about subscribing to the Digest version, please see:
| > <http://www.hwg.org/lists/hwg-business/index.html#2>
| >
| > For information about UNsubscribing to the Digest version, please see:
| > <http://www.hwg.org/lists/hwg-business/index.html#5>
| >
| >
| > 7.  How do I send a message to the list?
| > =====================================================
| >
| > Each list has a different feel and different general community rules.
| > Please spend some time listening in ("lurking") before posting in
| > order to get a feel for the way in which conversations take place.
| >
| > To send a message to the hwg-business list, send mail to:
| >     <hwg-business(at)hwg.org>
| >
| >
| > 8.  What if my message is not posting to the list?
| > ======================================================
| >
| > First troubleshoot the following items:
| >
| > *Did you subscribe to the Business List and receive confirmation the
| > subscription was processed?
| >
| > *Are you sending your post to: <hwg-business(at)hwg.org>?
| >
| > *Are you sending using the email address you originally used to
subscribe
| > to the list?
| >
| > *Does the email you subscribed with have an autoresponder attached to it
| or
| > include HTML formatting or attachments?
| >
| > It is not uncommon for members to change email addresses and
inadvertently
| > forget that the "new" address was not the one they used when they
| subscribed
| > to the list.  The new address would not be recognized by the mail server
| and
| > therefore your messages would not be forwarded to the list.
| >
| > Also, autoresponders and ISP problems that create bounced messages may
| > cause the list's filters to automatically unsubscribe you from the
| > list.  If after
| > checking all the above possibilities out you still are experiencing
| > difficulties,
| > email the List Guides for assistance.
| >
| >
| > 9.  What is the HWG-Business mailing list?
| > ======================================================
| >
| > The HWG-Business list is used by the HTML Writers Guild to discuss
| > matters related to the business/financial/marketing aspects of running
| > an HTML shop. Discussions about contracts, ethics, copyright, marketing,
| > sales techniques, etc. are most appropriate.
| >
| > The Frequently Asked Questions for the HWG-Business List is located at:
| >
| > <http://www.hwg.org/lists/hwg-business/faq.html>
| >
| >
| > 10.  What topics do NOT belong on HWG-Business?
| > ======================================================
| >
| > Messages sent to the entire list that are just "Thanks for your help"
| > messages, should be sent privately, not through the list. Although it is
a
| > courteous thing to do, it is best to keep messages like that off of the
| > list. If you want to, when you post a request for information or help,
you
| > can thank members "in advance".  You may notice that some members
| > write "TIA" in their messages, which means "Thanks In Advance".
| >
| > If you would like to have your web site looked at by other members of
the
| > Guild and get feedback from them, please post requests to the
hwg-critique
| > list. Requests for feedback (critiques) are not allowed on the
| hwg-business
| > list.
| >
| > Discussion of pricing is NOT allowed on any HWG Mailing Lists. More
| > information about the HWG's policy on pricing discussion can be  found
at:
| > <http://www.hwg.org/resources/faqs/priceFAQ.html> .   If you ever have a
| > question in regards to the pricing policy, please do not hesitate to ask
| one
| > of the List Guides at lg-business(at)hwg.org *before* posting.
| >
| > Finally, discussion about the operation or administration of the HTML
| > Writers Guild should not be posted on the hwg-business list.  There is a
| > Membership Suggest Box area on the HWG Web site for you to make
| > constructive and helpful suggestions directly to the Governing Board.
| This
| > service also gives you the opportunity to submit your ideas on what kind
| of
| > services you would like to see from the Guild, your feedback on current
| > Guild projects, and ideas for new Guild programs.
| >
| > <http://www.hwg.org/opcenter/suggest/>
| >
| > To ensure that members feel their needs are being met, the Governing
| > Board has created a new position on the Board, Guild Ombudsman.
| > The role of the Ombudsman is to assist in resolving any difficulties
| > between members and the Guild's administration, and to serve as a
| > primary contact for members who want to make their opinions known.
| >
| > Note that the role of Ombudsman is not a general complaint desk;
| > each HWG program has a way to present problems and those should
| > be used first -- for example, questions about the Logo program can go
| > to the Logo manager. The Ombudsman's role is to resolve problems if
| > you feel the normal methods haven't worked to your satisfaction.
| >
| > Frank Boumphrey has been appointed to the position of Ombudsman,
| > to serve from now until the Board's annual meeting in February. If you
| > would like to speak to him about any questions regarding Guild
| > services, you may write to him at:
| >
| > mailto:ombudsman(at)hwg.org
| >
| > As always, the members are what make the Guild strong -- we're here
| > to help you!
| >
| >
| > 11.  What other mailing lists are available?
| > ======================================================
| >
| > The HWG offers a plethora of list selections for members to choose from
| > depending on their areas of interest.  For an overview of all the
general
| and
| > topic specific lists offered by the HWG please visit:
| >
| > <http://www.hwg.org/lists/mailinglists.html>
| >
| >
|
|

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