Re: software text editors

The best "text" editor is "Notetab Pro"
http://notetab.com/ntp.htm
interfaces with Tidy as well

from site:
Web authors will love the HTML clip library, just one of a load of features
that make NoteTab a great code-based HTML editor. Other gems include
text-to-HTML conversion, tag stripping, and tools for adding links and color
codes.

ya gotta try it to believe what it can do

----- Original Message -----
From: "Davies, Elizabeth H." <EHDavies(at)West.com>
To: <hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 6:47 AM
Subject: RE: software text editors


I think that any WYSIWYG will pad code when you make changes.

Dreamweaver is usually very clean on the first go-round and FP2000 isn't too
bad either, but when you start resizing and dragging stuff here and there,
the fun begins. FP can get really nasty at that point. Try resizing text in
FP multiple times (go larger larger larger smaller larger smaller
smaller)... it will give you nested tags of every single resize (usually)...
Dreamweaver (usually) will only end up with the last one. When it gets
confused and starts doubling tags, a "code reformat" will strip out all
extraneous tags and combine the back to back ones. It's just a click on the
menu.

I don't use DW at all in the WYSIWYG view, so don't experience these issues.
I'm on a RAD team so I turn over my sites to the app dev people once the
core is set. They usually use DW in the WYSIWYG mode and have run into
problems. The biggest issue I've seen with DW is it's handling of tables in
WYSIWYG. It does not resize or deal with them gracefully. Since I use no
heights and only use widths in my table or top row (if I have to), grabbing
the tables and dragging or resizing can wreak havoc. BUT... not as bad as
other programs I've seen.

I shiver when I have to clean up a concept page that was done in FP. It's
almost always faster for me to go from scratch than to decipher and clean up
the end result of FP after a standard user has played. FP is great for rip
and trash pages... but not for anything I'd put out for the long haul or
that needed speed.

Elizabeth Davies

 -----Original Message-----
From: Klaas De Waele [mailto:klaas(at)gracegraphics.be]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 2:04 AM
To: 'hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org'
Subject: RE: software text editors

> Frontpage really inserts that crap????!!!

No.

But okay, it's the same with every wysiwyg editor - it has its character.
And for what I've been through, Dreamweaver has it far worse, with tag
closing and immediately reopening - here's a simple example:

<.p><.span class="body"> <.b>Guy Name<./b><.br>
                Technisch advies<./span><.span class="body"> <.br>
<.a href="mailto:what(at)d.com">what(at)d.com<./a><.br>
                <.br>
                <./span><./p>

But just like in FrontPage, there's ways around this, if you know how it
will react to certain things - which is why switching to a different program
requires some working-in.  I know lots of peple who are doing the switch
from Quark to Indesign these days.  After a few weeks of swearing, they are
getting how it works - and appreciate it a lot more than Quark.

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