heh, heh, sounds like you/outlook/xp live in a perfect world, there isn't=
=20
one.=20

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 05:26 pm, Brett Errington wrote:
> Hi
>
> Seems this conversation is getting quite lengthy. I would just like to
> say that Outlook Express is bad but Outlook isn't. It's a wonderful
> program (and I have used Eudora, Netscape Mail, Pegasus and a few other
> well known programs) and I still stick with Outlook. I have not been
> infected with a virus since I got it. Someone mentioned earlier that th=
e
> new XP Outlook blocks attachments that are unsafe which is even better.
> Also other people mentioned turning off preview pane. May I also sugges=
t
> turning off Macros (things that should only ever be used if you created
> them lol).=20

All programs have there problems, including lookout, oops I mean outlook.

> The only way your ever going to be safe from viruses is to be
> careful.=20

Correction here if I may - the only way you will ever be safe from viruse=
s is=20
to pull the plug from the wall. No internet access - No viruses. Oh, and =
pull=20
out the floppy drive also, since viruses can be spread by floppies as wel=
l.=20

> Check the subject of a message and who sent it ... don't know
> the person delete it. Strange subject delete it.  Or better yet you can
> use ICQ or a web mail program to preview messages on your server before
> downloading them.=20

Good advice, too bad most people, read that the average computer user,=20
doesn't heed that advise.
If your ISP offers web mail, use it. They have virus scanners and are bet=
ter=20
prepared to handle the problems associated with viruses than the the aver=
age=20
user, regardles of mcafee or norton or any other anti-virus program the=20
average user is running. None of them are 100%.

> These only usually read the text part of the program.
> They will not perform macros and won't auto run files. There is also
> that patch that someone else mentioned to block certain file types.
>
> I think it just simply comes down to you personally taking care of your
> system. It's the same for how your system performs.

That's right - if your pc is kept up to date with all the appropriate pat=
ches=20
you minimize the chances of being a virus propagator.

> One other thing.... Outlook receives more viruses because it is more
> popular but mainly because it is way more powerful. It does some amazin=
g
> things that other programs only dream about, but there is always a pric=
e
> to pay for getting something better.=20

Lookout, oops again - Outlook, is more insecure and more easily hacked by=
=20
script-kiddies, whence the larger portion of viruses are written to explo=
it=20
is weaknesses, of which there are many. Micro$oft is well aware of this.
=20
> Even so, I remain virus free (touch wood).=20

I believe its knock on wood.  ;-)

> Oh and Windows XP now has the personal firewall built into the
> O/S... great for these sort of problems.

Oh geez, did Micro$oft put some sort of firewall stuff in xp? Sounds like=
=20
pipe dreams. Firewall software and/or hardware belongs on a server betwee=
n=20
the client workstation and the internet.=20

> Later,
> Brett

Don't take any of these replies personally Brett, I'm just a bit amused b=
y=20
some of the stuff I've read in this thread. I don't use Micro$oft softwar=
e=20
for any purpose, I use FreeBSD exclusively, at home. At work I have to us=
e=20
Winblows NextTime (NT)  and It Isn't Secure (IIS),  but I use FreeBSD to =
run=20
my real full time web server.

Keep smilin',
--
Chip
=3D=3D
My son just told me Coke (in the can) will sink in water, but Diet Coke (=
in=20
the can) will float. What's up with that?
=3D=3D

> "That's a pain that will shorely linger, and that's no lie" - Ed Grimle=
y
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org [mailto:owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org=
]
> On Behalf Of Kym Jones
> Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 7:30 AM
> To: Jay Smith; Lisa Bradshaw
> Cc: hwg techniques
> Subject: Re: off topic - e-mail software
>
>
>
>
>
> Lisa,
>
> I use Eudora and have since forever and I'm very happy with it.
>
> It occurs to me that the cretins that design these things specifically
> target MS software because they figure the more damage they can do to M=
S
>
> the happier they are. Of course the only problem with that is the major
> inconvenience they cause to others in the meantime.
>
> Kym
>
>
>
>
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