Well, browsers are getting less quirky about things with 
each version. But some simple basic stuff that can 
annoy folk who want the same detailed layout control 
that exists in the professional print world is not covered 
in the specs. For example, IE has always put more 
space between paragraphs and lines than Netscape 
has. MS did this because they think it makes pages 
look better (I don't always agree). If a page layout is 
negatively effected because of that, is it a quirk in IE, a 
quirk in NS, or a designer who hasn't quite adjusted to 
the web philosophy of the visitor (through their browser) 
controlling such rendering?

And we won't even attempt to address the differences 
between how Windows, OS/2 and Linux PCs and Macs 
render font point sizes on screen ... ;-)

David
dvjones(at)ksbe.edu

On 16 Apr 2003, at 1:03, Mike Taylor wrote:

> I understand what you're saying.  But let's say for the
> moment I tend to think the no-doctype rendering is how
> it's supposed to look (which I of course
> don't)....wouldn't the assumption be then that if one were
> to use the doctype, that its appearance would therefore be
> uniform throughout the browsers that support that doctype
> (Netscape 7, Mozilla 1.3 and IE 6)?  And if so, why then
> would IE 6 render it completely different than the other
> two?
> 
> No matter whether you use the doctype or not, it all seems
> to be degrees of quirkiness, which brings me to the
> ultimate (and off-topic) question:  why use doctypes at
> all if they are still not treated equally among even the
> latest browsers that allegedly support them?
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Jones" <dvjones(at)ksbe.edu>
> To: <hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:02 PM
> Subject: Re: CSS problem using XHTML doctype.
> 
> 
> > To me, it depends on which you consider the "normal"
> > node to be. If you tend to think - not saying that you
> > do, but some folk do - that a browser's "quirks" mode
> > rendering is how it's supposed to look, then adding the
> > DOCTYPE and seeing the "unquirked" rendering means
> > there's something wrong, and the problem is the presence
> > of the DOCTYPE tag, not with the browser's "quirky"
> > rendering. Hope I'm getting this across clearly enough,
> > running seriously low on sleep at the moment ...
> 
> 


 

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