RE: CSS and XML for Dummies...

This is a little Off topic, but ...

This is just what I thinking the other day.  And up pops a Gartner Report
saying that in the US the big thing that is being implemented at the moment
by 50% of web sites is XML.  Its the flavour of the Quarter according to
this report.  Now personally I don't think much of these reports.

http://gartner12.gartnerweb.com/public/static/home/home.html

But, maybe I'm being a little thick here (;>) but if the Browser will not
support XML or XSL then whats the point. If the agent can't see it, its
still theory. I know that XML is great for Search etc and its what we need.
But at the moment only IE 5 (partly I think) supports XML. Maybe its just
too far off (next quarter maybe).

For Instance is Office 2000 XML aware. I know some editors and Application
Servers have provision for XML, buts thats all I've heard.

Any one else know anything, It's a great idea, just I'll like to see
something besides W3C trials etc.

Gary

radharc.


> I have a great book that has HTML4, XML, and Java published by QUE --
> great tutorials and full reference material.
>
> But my understanding is that XML isnt supported that much yet -- so Im
> wondering if its worth it to even start working with the tutorials that
> came with this book. I know its important to expand horizons and keep
> up -- but its hard when one of the first things you read about latest
> developments is "not widely supported". Any thoughts?
>
> Lisa
>
>
> --- Carol Parent <parent(at)djam.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > What was your resource for learning XML and CSS?
> > Also to, would you
> > recommend learning them separately to understand how
> > they work without each
> > other, or learning them as a pair, since you almost
> > always read about them
> > together.  I have visited http://www.xml.com  and
> > have noodled enough up in
> > there to wander off confused and talking to myself.
> > I have used CSS in
> > special cases when I wanted text to do a bit more
> > than HTML could make it do
> > and didn't want to fool with graphics, but have
> > never really delved into it
> > to much because of the problems with the browser
> > support, but that seems to
> > be coming to end.  XML and CSS seem to be the
> > replacement for HTML, they
> > call it XSL(?), and ppl talk about it as the holy
> > grail of Internet
> > Solutions.  So to get back to my original question,
> > how do you like XML and
> > what did you find was a good resource for learning
> > it?  Books, sites etc?
> >
> > Thanks much
> > Carol<~~~~Looking for the breadcrumbs she dropped to
> > find her way back.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Garbanga <webmaster(at)spelaean.com>
> > To: <hwg-graphics(at)mail.hwg.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 4:51 PM
> > Subject: CSS and XML for Dummies...
> >
> >
> > > > Well I guess I am fortunate and driven enough to
> > be able to function as
> > > > both a graphic designer and programmer --- they
> > both go hand-in-hand.
> > > > Its just strange to me that there are web
> > designers who cant work with
> > > > code and only with graphics and vice-versa ----
> > o well.
> > >
> > > Yuck.  What a self-centered thing to write.  It
> > appears to be
> > > so, anyway.  On top of that, I believe that that
> > isn't what we're
> > > talking about.  Any of us on here who do web
> > graphics can
> > > probably get around in HTML, and maybe DHMTL,
> > Javascript,
> > > CSS, etc. with no problem.  It's pretty easy to
> > gain fluency in
> > > HTML.  We're talking about script writing in
> > languages such
> > > as Perl, C++, Visual Basic, etc..
> > >
> > > I'm awaiting further CSS and XML compatibility.
> > I'm already doing
> > > some sites that are completely controlled by CSS.
> > The compatibilty
> > > will catch up, I'm sure (hopefully Netscape will
> > add more CSS
> > > support to their browser... {body a:hover} is not
> > supported!).
> > > Linking to CSS documents REALLY speeds a site up.
> > >
> > > I've already been working with XML to a certain
> > extent, and it's
> > > database "programming" a designer can live with.
> > >
> > > Good graphics and navigation are very important to
> > a site.
> > > Knowledge of techniques for reducing file sizes
> > and incorporating
> > > your graphics with very custom code are important
> > a web
> > > designer.  I think that if someone excels as an
> > artist, they
> > > might find it difficult to grasp database
> > programming.  Programming
> > > and artistry are each on different sides of the
> > brain.
> > >
> > > CSS and XML are fairly simple to grasp, and are
> > nothing
> > > but beneficial for everyone.  This, fortunately,
> > is the direction
> > > we're headed in.
> > >
> > > For now, we really just need better WYSIWYG online
> > database
> > > management and e-commerce.  What's out now is
> > pretty
> > > limited (especially for e-commerce).
> > >
> > > I like beef.
> > >
> > > -Steve
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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